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RE: XP Farming - swampdog - 02-26-2016
I thought about making the entities allies instead of enemies as well, but I think the map would need to be recompiled to actually change it without entmod. If the map was recompiled, people would need to have the recompiled version to play or else they wouldn't be able to join the server running that version (unless Sven Coop decides to do this themselves with a future release, which would be great).. EntMod is probably our best bet for a temporary fix. I still haven't quite figured out how it works, and am not so sure it will even work to manipulate the values like how we want it to. There are other ways to make a custom version of the maps, but it probably isn't the best idea just to do it for SCXPM. The SCXPM code could be changed, or manipulated for the maps with probems in a separate plugin"
Something like http://www.amxmodx.org/api/amxmodx/has_map_ent_class
my idea for an amxx plugin specialized for the map (to be enabled in /addons/amxmodx/configs/maps/mapname.ini)
Code:
if (has_map_ent_class == "monster_scientist")
{
if victim == "monster_scientist" // ex. walter on toonrun3
{ return PLUGIN_HANDLED } // don't give xp
else
{ givexp(id)} // give xp to the person who shot the
}lol I just came up with that and it is just an idea of how it could be .. I could probably make a plugin that actually subtracts xp whenever they shoot the entity LOL!
There is probably some engine code that would need to go into the plugin once it is identified as a victim of the person who XP would be given to...
another idea: I guess there is a way to just remove an entity altogether.. http://www.amxmodx.org/api/engine/remove_entity
http://www.amxmodx.org/api/engine/__functions reference to engine functions for entity handling
Another way that this might be done is through using HamSandwich (?) This method is very interesting to me http://www.amxmodx.org/api/ham_const Look for the Monster portion of the code. I think the monster code in Sven Coop can be compatible with HamSandwich
And yet another potential method for solving this type of problem is to give the entity a "God Mode" status so whenever anyone attacks it there is no damage given to the entity.
RE: XP Farming - Mr. Robot - 03-25-2016
(03-25-2016, 03:02 PM)Bip Wrote: 1. everyone xp farms
2. i sure as hell did not see anything about not doing it.. and if i remember this correctly.. i was not the only one hitting the turrets.. the fact that im the one who gets banned is beyond me..
3. i have probably spent way more time on this server than you kaze
4. this world needs to burn. i sure as fuck do not deserve a fucking ban you disgusting unlogical ego tripped nerds
1. We fixed all XP farming problems soon after they were discovered with EntMod, and also created a set level cap per level to stop XP farmers
2. I'm sure you didn't get banned or something, maybe your XP got reset...
3.What name do you use? I can check the time for you.
4. With that attitude, I'm not sure you are better than the "fucked up people ruining everything for everyone" that you mention.
Please chill out, I'm sure we can solve your ban problem soon.
How did you get vac banned?
We ban cheaters because they cheat, XP farming is cheating and gets banned much like how casual and hardcore content pirates get banned
RE: XP Farming - swampdog - 03-26-2016
Try running 4 or more Ubuntu 14.04.3 x64 SCXPM Sven Coop 5.0 servers (not counting the regular Sven Coop servers) without pulling your hair out over this! The only thing that has driven me more crazy than this XP Farming crap is the old Sven Coop maps being broken.
Thank goodness the crashes are happening less often, though. Since Sven Coop 5.03 was released, it seems crashes happen much, much less often. Since the crashes have stopped this has stressed me out a hell of a lot less, and I don't feel there is a need for punishment if there are less problems happening on our Linux boxes. LOL I almost shut off SCXPM altogether because of this, and I am glad Sven Coop released some updates to fix some of the problems that were happening. Yes, some things did get fixed, and server crashes are happening far less often...The policy of XP Farming here has been changed since it was originally discovered. No one should be banned for doing that if it can be avoided. Originally people were banned or had their XP reset, which I realize now is quite harsh. I don't think anyone has been banned or had their XP reset for "XP Farming" lately (in the last month or so). Anyone who was banned for XP farming was unbanned shortly after being banned. I hope this issue has been resolved.
The reason for XP farming originally being so problematic is that it floods the MySQL database and the CPU of the game server when too many people are sitting all around those enemy entities shooting them. If you want to crash our servers by intentionally exploiting maps like this, you are not welcome on our servers. What is the purpose of gaining experience points in a game, when you sit there and cheat? Cheating defeats the purpose of gaining XP lol. This problem has been address and there is temporary solutions it, but people still try to exploit the map anyways. At least it isn't flooding the MySQL database and CPU with data anymore, but it still can lead to other problems for other reasons such as SVC_BAD client crash happening. The SVC_BAD problem is going to happen with or without SCXPM, and it is highly likely the problem is only made worse by mis-matching Metamod data that needs to be updated for the Sven Coop 5.0 engine.
I don't like seeing disrespectful language like the words you are using, Bip. You can find another place to play if you would like. We don't need people treating others like shit around here. It sounds like you are angry about more things than just Sven Coop. Maybe you should take a break from Sven Coop, or something. Go for a walk, do some reading, do some gardening, something....
The place to complain about any perceived admin abuse is here, Bip: http://modriot.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=13 If you want to talk with anyone about your ban, it is me. Don't worry about What anyone else says. If you want to personally attack someone, attack me. I banned you because I was asked to by multiple people to do it multiple times. I also unbanned you because a person promised me that you would be treating people with some more respect. I can see why someone who is a sensible person would not want someone who talks like you on their server. There are many people who ruin the game play of others and cause problems but it does not need to escalate with personal insults like this. We can use help dealing with these problems if you want to help. We don't need you on our server, and don't want you to be there if you can't be kind enough to other people. If you want to be a jerk, there are other places you can do that without having to stress out about it so much. We are trying to avoid having problems on our game servers, including personal problems with people's attitudes. This is probably the least fun of all the different things that I need to pay attention to. Do you think I want to be having to deal with people causing problems? I could just turn off SCXPM or all of the Sven Coop servers. What would there to be to complain about then? It really isn't worth being an asshole. Life is too short on this planet and people waste time on extremely petty things. I have wasted far too much time caring about this and don't mind permanently banning anyone if it is required. You can apologize, Bip. Otherwise I don't see you being very welcome around here. You have already made a rude introduction to yourself and are already wearing my patience even more thin than it already is. I am giving you a chance just like the chance everyone else gets.
RE: XP Farming - swampdog - 03-26-2016
http://modriot.com/showthread.php?tid=452&pid=818#pid818 I moved Bip's complaint here.